tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5913752433926766420.post7251289839870689387..comments2024-03-18T03:11:28.494-07:00Comments on Bobby Owsinski's Big Picture Music Production Blog: Hearing Music Is Learned TraitUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5913752433926766420.post-9127532982841973042013-02-22T16:11:05.855-08:002013-02-22T16:11:05.855-08:00This is rather absurd. The study already showed si...This is rather absurd. The study already showed signs of its origination in the musically and contextually bankrupt theories of Rameau. Only after clicking on the link did I discover that the study was citing Helmholtz, whose theories were descended from Rameau's; big surprise. <br />Essentially this ignores, and completely misunderstands, dissonance in music. It becomes posited that all these tones are isolated phenomena (at least for this ridiculous argument to work) with no relationship to what precedes or succeeds these pitches. <br />Of course listeners found a random chord dissonant and unpleasant, if it's played without meaning. Also, how was this chord generated, or voiced, and it what octaves? To Rameau and Helmholtz (the theoretical basis of this study) middle C is the same as the C two octaves up. Anyone who is familiar with vocal polyphony, orchestration, or just a half-decent musician knows this is not true. You'll find in J.S. Bach enough aural evidence to refute these findings, a composer to specifically disagreed with Rameau; in fact the whole Fux>Bach>Mozart>Beethoven lineage! <br />Using Pythagoras, and its accusations of a scale that is 'not particularly natural' is little dubious.<br />Who has a hard time with Indian and Arabic tuning? Perhaps those who haven't heard much of it, and even that is rather presumptuous.<br />This study oversimplifies music and sound, as it ignores music as a language. It further takes an isolated observation, like the cultural difference between using a fork to chop-sticks, and makes a terrible attempt to explain human's taste in food.<br />Brian P.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5913752433926766420.post-45608317150874087142013-02-19T18:26:21.851-08:002013-02-19T18:26:21.851-08:00Interesting. I grew up in a house where music was...Interesting. I grew up in a house where music wasn't, as I recall, played a lot. My parents didn't have big record collections or much interest in it really. I grew to love the limited amount of classical music that I was exposed to. For a grade 7 party at school, friends brought AC/DC's Back In Black. I brought Beethoven's Sixth Symphony. My cousin's turned me on to the popular music of the early 80's, and by the end of that decade I was getting more into rock. My favorite "rock" band ended up being Sonic Youth. Perhaps an odd "choice" but I've always seen their music/noise as more classical in it's composition, and in fact, they write all the music first and lyrics and melodies are more of an afterthought. However, the music that moves me more than any other is always Classical music. sculleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5913752433926766420.post-49875852970645990422013-02-19T18:24:06.051-08:002013-02-19T18:24:06.051-08:00Also perfectly explains why a 3 year old bashing a...Also perfectly explains why a 3 year old bashing away on a piano is more enamored with his 'compositions' than anyone else;-)Rand Blisshttp://about.me/rand_blissnoreply@blogger.com