This sounds to be either the center channel from a 5.1 mix or a center channel phase extraction, which actually can be a better learning tool than if it were off the multitrack. During the solo section you can hear the guitar solo enter, which is why a tell-tale sign that it's not directly from the multitrack.
Here's a couple of things to note as you listen:
1) Ronnie's voice is pretty compressed, but this is something that he really needs since he had such a dynamic voice.
2) There's a good bit of a medium long plate reverb on his vocal. It doesn't sound like it's delayed.
3) He doubles the B section of the verse and then breaks into the harmony on the hook of the song. Some of the harmonies have different releases form the lead phrasing, which we probably wouldn't let pass today. That said, it never bothered me before when I listened to the song.
4) You can hear a punch out at the end of the high section vocal section of verse two.
Enjoy.
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6 comments:
The guitar solo is in ST. You also can hear his headphones. I think it could really be out of multitracks.
Hello,
you can hear the headphones behind. And also guitar solo is stereo. No so sure about phase cancel or mono center 5.1 mix.
The vocal reverb is in stereo also. This sounds like it could be a stem from a 5.1 mix for a motion picture, in my opinion. The music supervisors usually request music LCR on 1-3, then vocals LCR on 4-6. You could easily have thrown the guitar solo 4-6 with the vocals. It gives the music supervisor flexibility in putting the track under scenes without using the vocals.
That level of compression is quite common in rock. I assisted for both Lord-Alge brothers and the vocals were unbelievably compressed and limited, then compressed again! We used the Lexicon 480L "A Plate" at 2.0 decay for the vocal verb on almost every track. About the same sound as this.
I agree about the vocal releases, but I also think people spend way too much time ProTooling the life out of vocals these days. I had a client request that I get rid of all the breaths between lines one time. It took me forever to get it right, then they said it "sounded weird". Of course it does! Singers breathe! It took me 3 seconds to undo it...
But I digress...
Very cool to hear him solo'd like that. Thanks for posting this. I have the original multitracks to "Killer Queen"if you want to post them up, as well. Thta's kinda mind-blowing to listen to, both technically and musically.
Steve G
The vocal reverb is in stereo also. This sounds like it could be a stem from a 5.1 mix for a motion picture, in my opinion. The music supervisors usually request music LCR on 1-3, then vocals LCR on 4-6. You could easily have thrown the guitar solo 4-6 with the vocals. It gives the music supervisor flexibility in putting the track under scenes without using the vocals.
That level of compression is quite common in rock. I assisted for both Lord-Alge brothers and the vocals were unbelievably compressed and limited, then compressed again! We used the Lexicon 480L "A Plate" at 2.0 decay for the vocal verb on almost every track. About the same sound as this.
I agree about the vocal releases, but I also think people spend way too much time ProTooling the life out of vocals these days. I had a client request that I get rid of all the breaths between lines one time. It took me forever to get it right, then they said it "sounded weird". Of course it does! Singers breathe! It took me 3 seconds to undo it...
But I digress...
Very cool to hear him solo'd like that. Thanks for posting this. I have the original multitracks to "Killer Queen"if you want to post them up, as well. Thta's kinda mind-blowing to listen to, both technically and musically.
Steve G
seems that posters are in stereo too : )
Lol... Yeah. The first time I posted it, it gave an error of some sort, so I posted again. Figures... You'd think I'd learn to wait and see, but I ain't the patient type. Now I can't delete the second one.
Just delay the 2nd one 11ms, pan them out, and it really gives a nice stereo image.
Man, that's a geeky joke.
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